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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (52 children)

Wait what’s wrong with Tesla products? In my experience they are the most user friendly cars ever built. I never have to think about it — it locks, unlocks, and turns on and off without intervention, it opens and closes my garage door without intervention, it “has a full tank” for less money, and a conditioned cabin every morning (haven’t been to a gas station in 5 years), and I never need to think about oil, belts, or rotors needing attention. Autopilot and FSD significantly reduce my workload in the drivers seat. It’s not perfect, and Elon Musk is a total asshat, but I can’t think of a more revolutionary user experience when you consider what the other automaker’s offer. I can’t stress enough how easy my Tesla makes the act of transportation.

So why the hate? If for the ties to Elon, I get that and am fully on board, but I feel like most of you have never actually experienced the product?

Edit: Y’all have failed to convince me that Tesla ownership is equivalent to printer ownership.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (35 children)

Doesn't most of this stuffapply to basically all EVs?

I have done zero research and I know these dealbreakers:

  • Microtransactions for a car (e.g. autopilot features, features already built-in, but subscription locked)
  • A tablet on the dashboard is a UX nightmare, since it can't be used blindly (you should focus on the road, please).
  • The futuristic retracting doorhandles are a nightmare for firefighters, since you can't easily pull people out of crashed Teslas.
  • The whole cybertruck debacle
  • Wasn't the estimated reach that the car supposedly had explicitly programmed to overestimate?

Edit: aparrently, the doors are very hard/mostly impossible to open when the power goes out.

[–] eatCasserole 12 points 7 months ago (8 children)

My mom has one, and the door handles are so awkward, I really don't think I'll ever get used to them. From the inside, it's easy enough, but it's also just a button, with no physical unlatching mechanism, and the window has to go down slightly when the door opens, so I would not want to be in there if it lost power.

She does generally like the thing though.

[–] Exusgu 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's a separate handle on the inside to be used when there's no power. It's to be used in an emergency, and works without the window going down

[–] Blue_Morpho 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unless you are in the back seat.

[–] Exusgu 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

In the model 3 at least, the rear doors can also be opened without power by pulling a cable. Not as obvious as the front doors, I'll say, but you will be able to get out.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-A7A60DC7-E476-4A86-9C9C-10F4A276AB8B.html

[–] Blue_Morpho 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That was added in this year's model. All previous Model 3's do not have manual release for the rear door. https://youtu.be/Cfk8Erx8Wiw?si=MGK94UX_qavyOuVr

Besides, having manual door open under a hidden panel in the bottom of a door pocket is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Mine is from 2019 and I have to actually tell people in the backseat to use the button and not the handle, because it's so much more prominent.

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The previous poster already showed the user manual where the BACKSEAT release is under a hidden panel at the bottom the door pocket.

I showed a video that the 2022 and older model 3 has no manual door release at all.

Again, BACKSEAT. The front seat has an easy access manual door opener.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know what you want me to say, my 2019 Model 3 has a manual door release handle on top of the panel inside the door of the back seat? Maybe it's a EU regulation thing.

Also mine looks nothing like the manual posted. Just to point out, this wasn't a recent addition, there were model 3s with back door manual releases back in 2019.

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a physical handle? Not a pull string like is shown in the manual? That isn't standard on any 2019 Tesla in Europe.

2019:

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/?model-3-rear-door-no-unpowered-emergency-release-safety.179083/

2023:

"The new owner's manual for the Europe-bound Model 3 shows that the rear doors are now fitted with an easily accessible manual door release. This is placed at the bottom of the door pocket, under a plastic cover that can be easily removed to access the mechanical release cable. "

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-3-highland-has-easily-accessible-emergency-releases-even-for-rear-doors-220756.html

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