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its almost like foreign governments collecting information about your population is a bad thing for your people and your government, or something.
It's worse for the US to have my data as a Canadian than China. America can come for me, and my country would hand me over. China can't do shit to me.
America would lose all standing in global politics and the global economy if they invaded Canada without very strong reason. If the US started a war with China tomorrow, half the world, Canada included, would either do nothing or join them.
They're talking about extradition
Wtf does that have to do with anything? Were talking about large scale spying not infringing on American copyrights.
.... And when they are spying, and see something they don't like, they CAN come for me. Canadian government won't stop them.
I don't want a shitty country like America to spy on me. Sorry. America is not as great as Americans act like it is.
Like I've said, I want no one to spy on me. But if I had to pick, I'd pick China because it makes me safer. Not because I'd like it. I wouldn't. Fuck spying.
Yeah, the US is really gunna come after you because....? Right, there is no way your government would give you over without actual evidence.
It seems like you don't understand the point.
I also think it's really weird that Americans are replying to me being really defensive over other countries not preferring to give America all their data.
Like I said, America isn't as great as Americans think it is. The rest of the world doesn't want their data funneled into America. I'm sorry if this is how you're finding out that America isn't number one.
I'm really not trying to be a dick or argue, I just don't get how you don't understand the basic concept that Canada will hand me over to the US, but won't hand me over to China.
It's also frustrating that you guys think that if I don't agree with America having my data, that I love China? I don't. Never said I did. I hate both places having my data. I hate my own country having my data. It's not all black and white.
If you believe your country would hand over any citizen to the US just because the US said so, your issue is with your country, not the US. the problem with China spying on the west through TikTok is that they can use that information to manipulate the population without stepping foot on foreign soil. And they're already doing this with TikTok. The content Chinese users get vs the content western users get is so drastically different that they're not even the same platform. This int about extradition, it's about information and control. And while you could argue that the US uses these platforms to control other countries, and I would point out that Russia is clearly much more effective at using them, and they don't even own them.
I'm not having this argument lmao. Go back to Reddit if you want to have a back and forth about 'Murica numba 1!
Also, not quite sure what you mean about the algorithm. I watch TikTok and get all American and Canadian content creators about technology, animals, comedy, and science. If you're getting manipulation content, perhaps that's on you?
Your tinfoil hat is too tight.
you're entire argument is that america collecting canadian citizens information is worse than china because china can't extradite you... because they're under such poor terms with western governments that none of them would extradite a national to china. and this argument ignores 2 things, 1, the evidence that these countries legally subpoenaed from these corporations needs to be significant for any of the western nations to extradite to any of each other. 2, the fact that china has such a poor reputation on the national stage that these countries will not cooperate with tiny bullshit their citizens might get into with the CCP. you have to be dumb blind and stupid to think extradition is the issue here.
Reddit.com is that way. I am now blocking you because I am not going to be the type of person that turns Lemmy into Reddit 2.0
My simple point still stands. Again, sorry you don't realize that no one wants America to have their data. Your country is falling apart. I mean damn, you're so upset about something you disagree with, that you're calling me dumb, blind, and stupid. Did you grab a thesaurus and type all of the words you read on the one page? because two of those things mean the same thing.
Sorry to everyone else reading this thread. I did not mean to start a petty argument on Lemmy.
your simple point holds no water. canada won't extradite a national to the US without evidence and legal charges being brought. china can't extradite you because canada won't cooperate with them.