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[–] plofi 34 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Is it a conspiracy to make us think violence isn't a way to change things? It keeps getting worse, and when I think about the French revolution - it was pretty ugly, but hey, also pretty effective.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The French Revolution took about a century to fully play out, including a period when Napoleon made the rest of Europe his personal bitch.

After The Terror France had to go though a bunch of try outs while various regimes and political powers got hubris fever and started rolling back rights again, resulting in more guillotines and piles of heads. In the late 1800s, the French Republic was fully established, and the people were damn tired of aristocrats trying to push their authority.

I anticipate it's going to go down like that here in the states, only with the chaos of fifty states with their individual interests using chaos to sabotage the opposition. Our grandkids' grandkids will see a lasting peace, maybe, assuming pollution doesn't destroy global agriculture and creat a mass famine...ir a new supergerm... or Project 2025 succeeds in removing all the pacifists and peaceniks from the STRATCOM chain of command, allowing for global nuclear exchange.

All this is to say, short of a string of Dickensian Christmas miracles to get plutocrats to let their political puppets implement some social safety nets, the US and possibly the world is in for a centuries-long rough ride.

[–] plofi 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ok, it seems I'm an uneducated dumbass with very shallow knowledge of big events in history. Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply. EDIT: although, I don't suggest destroying democracy. I was talking about violence against bilionares. As in - you see a bilionare having dinner at a fancy restaurant...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Oh I'm not saying we shouldn't eat the rich. I'm saying the climb out of monarchist / plutocratic hellholes is a long and arduous one. When we eat the first guy we should make sure the others know they're up next unless they get really really nice (and generous), and they're on the menu the moment they try to flee.

Also we should take notes from all the election-reform experts regarding what we want the new system to look like. They've been actually thinking about this for decades now.

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