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[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

money is a lie, it has no value.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage 10 points 10 months ago

Not really a lie, just an agreed upon standard of exchange. Money has no value in the same way that a gram has no meaning...its simply a measure of value (or mass) that we all agreed to use to allow society to function.

Things fall apart pretty damn fast when the guy that owns the gas station can't sell fuel to the farmer because the farmer only has corn to trade, and the fueler doesn't need corn right now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. When I need a medium of exchange, unit of account, and/or store of value, I just use

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

i too love using throughout my day, it's especially useful during situations.

[–] EdibleFriend 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Go to the store and get some food without it then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Money has no value if you can run fast enough

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you dont need a store to get food.

[–] EdibleFriend 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok. Get your garden and your animals for livestock going without spending a dime.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

even then you could probably manage that relatively easily.

[–] EdibleFriend 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

....no. not really. You are not going to get cows and pigs and whatnot completely free. You are not going to grow enough food to feed both them and yourself easily.

Capitalism sucks ass but its the system we live in. You can't just say 'nope I could make it all happen for free'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i mean, it wouldnt be easy, but it's definitely not impossible.

[–] EdibleFriend 1 points 10 months ago

Not completely impossible, but.. it might as well be. I live in an apartment. For what he claims is easy I need free cows. free seeds. at least a few free acers of land. free tools. and thats just the shit i can think off of the top of my head.

Yes its not technically impossible, but its also not technically impossible for us to start building a base on mars 3 months from now. Is either of these things actually going to reasonably happen tho?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 10 months ago

The value of money is in its utility as a means of translating temporal activities into physical assets. It is a method of accredited accounting and useful as such.

[–] PhilMcGraw 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean sure money itself is just a token, but it's an evolution from trading goods and services for other people's goods and services, right?

You trade your time for tokens to exchange for something valuable to you, instead of being paid in food/accommodation directly.

I don't think you'd be happy if you went back to the days where you needed to trade actual items to get a loaf of bread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

i mean yeah, this is true, but you should go and try explaining the economics of the stock market, crypto, or government debt to someone from the medieval ages.

The amount of exploitation of the market that has happened since the invention of currency as a concept is amusing.