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Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How very compassionate of you.

So that's your compassion? Ignore others around you hey. Makes sense.

because it makes it far easier to manipulate them

Oh this is hilarious, do tell, how I manipulate an entire countries statistics on suicide over time!

and get the opinions of an institute dedicated to suicide prevention

They're absolutely right, as a generalization. Does it stop the result when access was taken away specifically for Guns. The statistics clearly show means changed over time and did the rate reduce? No. That rope lobby is looking mighty dangerous now. You better get on the case.

women are just doing it for attention

Is that what I said? Don't worry, I don't just make baseless claims or tell you to just google something that doesn't exist. Suicide rate is 3 times higher for males, after all this is the topic with Guns.

higher rate of suicide among Australian males are that males tend to choose more lethal methods of suicide such as hanging (60% of male suicides), poisoning, including by car exhaust (11%), and firearms (8%). (Australian Psychological Society)

men have a greater tendency to not recognize or respond to their own negative emotions or distress, which may result in more chronic and severe emotional responses to adverse life events (Goldney et al., 2002)

Men are less inclined to communicate feelings of despair or hopelessness, and are more likely to present a stoic attitude towards misfortune (Howerton et al., 2007; Witte et al., 2012)

have fewer social connections (Denney et al 2009)

Differences in help seeking between men and women are additional contributing factors. Men tend not to seek help for emotional difficulties, often feeling that help-seeking is a weakness or failure and preferring to solve problems on their own, without being a burden on others (Emslie et al 2006)

That’s the opinion of a complete cunt,

Don't worry you do enough gas lighting and straw-manning for everyone. At this point its assured you're lobbying for big oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep, what a surprise, you can't find any organisations that agree with you, even though your clearly the expert.

Even more fascinating is when you finally start pulling out extracts, you struggle to not contradict yourself.

higher rate of suicide among Australian males are that males tend to choose more lethal methods of suicide such as hanging

So you're adamant that guns have nothing to do with the suicide rate, then immediately paste a quote about how lethality of method increases the suicide rate?

Do you think guns are more or less lethal than hanging you fucking dunce?

Don't bother answering, just repeat "b-b-bhut Australia" over and over again, pointing at a policy that didn't target suicide prevention.

Maybe you can follow it up with throwing a tantrum because people aren't discussing exactly what's in the title, even as you gloss over the "U.S" part so that you can use an island with 14 guns per capita to a country with 120 guns per capita.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you have no evidence no study and no statistics to support your baseless claims and generalisations. I thought so.

A pathetic political wedge attempt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Repeatedly linked. Have the gun lobby built a GPT bot and taught it to sealion?

You should get a job at a suicide hotline and when people call up, ask them if they've considered buying a cool gun and shooting things because after all, it makes no difference at all if you give suicidal people firearms.

You know, because Australia banned semi-automatic weapons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So more generalisations no studies no statistics, nothing of value to the conversation. More baseless claims and empty straw manning. Keep up the good work big oil.