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Details offer clue as to why Wagner Group abandoned coup attempt that revealed ‘real cracks’ in Putin’s authority

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Do I believe the telegraph?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Fair enough to wait for a better source, but I'm seeing this in other places too, citing "UK intelligence sources".

But, and this is confirmation bias speaking, this was exactly my guess when I first heard he'd turned around: "guess some family member that he cares about didn't make themselves quite scarce enough and Putins guys have them."

[–] dystop 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The only reason I don't believe this is, every well-informed Russian knows to hide their family and friends before doing something like this.

[–] lightsecond 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that Putin threatened the families of Wagner officers and not Prigozhin’s himself. More plausible IMO because the chain is as weak as its weakest links. Putin might have found just enough leverage.

[–] dystop 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's logical, but it means Prigozhin didn't do a good enough job.

Basically he needed to make sure enough officers at the highest levels are protected. Then when it gets down to, say, anyone below a captain, there would be too many relatives for Putin to round up effectively.

[–] lightsecond 2 points 1 year ago

Hard to strategise in the middle of a war :)

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