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I don't care what a mass shooter believes, releasing their manifesto is always the wrong thing to do. It encourages other insane people killing people to get their manifestos published.
He acted because he believed the dehumanizing rhetoric of CRT. Letting people see CRT for the hate it really is needs to happen.
Oh no, bad thing happened, so clearly [latest right wing boogeyman] is responsible! Let's not even offer supporting evidence.
The supporting evidence is his manifesto. His hate for "powerfull" "wealthy" white people came from the idea that they harmed him and were responsible for his problems.
Maybe you should actually read the article before claiming you have evidence:
So you've shifted from his manifesto not being littered with CRT ideology to the police will not confirm that the journal is authentic.
No, I still hold the position that the right wing is using CRT as a boogeyman, and an unconfirmed manifesto (that doesn't even having anything to do with CRT, let alone being littered with it) in no way supports your claim.
It's pretty obvious you can't or won't read his manifesto.
Yeah, it's almost like I don't want to lend any credence to terrorists/terrorist orgs.
Yet you can claim to know what's in it without reading it.
If your water stops working in your bathroom, but you still have water pressure in other parts of the house. Without looking in the pipes, is it wrong to say that there is a clog?
Even though you never looked?
I never claimed to know what's in Hale’s manifesto if there actually is one, and I don't need to because I know what leads to a metaphorical clog, and CRT ain't it.
The only way to know if water stopped working in your bathroom is to observe it you have to look. Further bathrooms have shutoffs, it's far more likely the shutoff was enabled. Water pipes getting clogged in a specific area is very uncommon so it would be wrong to think your pipes are clogged. It looks like you know as much about plumbing as the manifesto.
It's a metaphor. If you can't even try to understand what I'm saying then I don't know what to tell you.
It's a terrible metaphor. Claiming knowledge about something without ever seeing it is impossible.
Humans can't see X rays. Yet we claim immense knowledge of them.
You need to work on your metaphors. We can observe xrays.
No we can't. X rays are beyond the range of human vision.
Observe != see. Read carefully
So we can know something with indirect observation? Congratulations for getting up to speed, now please apply what you've learned to my original metaphor.
Youu haven't observed the manifesto indirectly. You shitty metaphors still doesn't work.
Like I already said, I don't need to, to know CRT isn't the problem here.
You've said over and over that you want to better understand conservatives, then you say stuff like this. You also whine that you can't just defeat the point of the sub by posting lefty shit.
Do you honestly want to understand, or is that just an excuse?
No I haven't. I understand conservatism plenty. It's all about fighting literally anything that would make the world better, more empathetic, more prosperous, more fair, and actively pushing for regression and death of humanity.
I'm not here to understand conservatism better. I'm here to stay in the loop, keep my debate skills in check, a bit of entertainment, and on the off chance a fence sitter is passing by, hopefully enough context for them to see through conservative bullshit.