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If you're feeling left out it's probably because you defend billionaires who would mince you into fertilizer
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All the generally established capitalist wiggleroom like minimum wages, paid holiday, affordable health care, education instead of manual labour for children etc were established by massive strikes and (threats of) violent masses.
I don't really get what you mean by wiggle room. Also are you implying that all positive change related to workers rights entirely centered around strikes/violence without any action by the government?
Governments acted only when forced to by people organizing outside of established politics. Voting has had little to do with true progress, it's a lie told to stifle organization.
Isn't that the point of unions? To have leverage over the place you work so they have to treat you right? Strikes and protests are a good way to raise awareness and pressure higher ups to act, but if you don't vote in the goverment system than you have no real leverage over the people who speak for you. True progress? What about gay marriage being legalized across the US? What about the cops who killed George Floyd being convicted of murder? That isn't "true" progress? Yes there have been steps back like Roe V Wade, but progress is not a continuous upward trend in the short term. But I'm pretty sure abortion is not a settled matter in the US and a lot of people don't want it.
You think the George Floyd case was a good example of electoral politics?! That's actually more of a point of organizing outside of party politics. Your point of gay marriage is better, but honestly in my mind that has more to do with brave queer folk living their lives and normalizing it than any politician.
Yeah the George Floyd riots did not help that it was very polarizing. What? The point is progress was made through the political system. Yes it was normalized, but those situations are not in opposition to eachother. Usually things become socially acceptable and then they become more legally acceptable.
Calls protests riots.
Yeah have a good one mate.
? I know there were a lot of actual protest but yeah there definitely was rioting.
Yeah I dont see protesting as acting outside the political system. I see it as an important part of it that helps spread awareness as I said before...