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seems like the 'safe' public opinion is 'we stand behind israel' and the left opinion is palestinian support

i don't live there i don't have any particular interest or fascination with the region i don't understand any of this pls don't yell at me

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[–] Art3sian 160 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

How long do you have? Here’s the very brief summary, and full disclaimer, I don’t have dog in this race.

  1. Jerusalem is an important place for both Jews and Muslims.

  2. They’ve been fighting over this space for two millenia. The Roman’s had it for a long time (Christian), the Ottomans had it for a long time (Islamic).

  3. After WW1 and the Ottomans were defeated, it passed onto the Turkish (Islamic).

  4. After WW2, with Britain now in control of it (Palestine) and with the surviving Jews now displaced worldwide with no country to live, the U.N decided to give Jews a new home and call this new place the State of Israel. They put Israel right in the middle of Palestine, which no Islamic nation could object to because they were all defeated in war.

  5. Since then, Jews call Israel their home country. Surrounding Islamic countries don’t recognise Israel and want the Jews to leave.

  6. Islamic nations including Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iran, Syria have all gone to war with Israel (the 6-day War) to kick the Jews out. They’ve all lost because Israel is militarily backed by world powers. Israel is now a military powerhouse and have full control of the region.

  7. Israel allow Muslim Palestinians small areas to live in the area, namely Gaza and the West Bank, but they’re not particularity nice to the Muslims living there. This is the Palestinian/Israeli war that’s been going on for almost a century.

  8. This space is now two main religions crammed into a very small space. Both claim that it’s their ancestral land. Islamic nations don’t recognise Israel as a country. Most of the rest of the world does.

  9. Israel has become a defensive fortress with nukes, and is surrounded by five countries that hate it. No Islamic nation is strong enough to beat Israel. Skirmishes and shit fighting continues. Sometimes it gets serious. This week it got really serious.

  10. This fight will probably go on forever because of the religious significance of Jerusalem which neither the Israelis or Palestinians will ever give up claim to.

  11. So who’s right and who’s wrong? Probably neither. Probably both. Probably humans are just shit.

EDIT: I know there’s lots of missing parts here but honestly, the full story would be a semester of university worth of info. I tried to keep this ultra-digestible, without bias or conspiracy or finger pointing.

Thank you below for the corrections.

[–] Account5600 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Very comprehensive write up, but i think something a lot of answers miss out on is...well, who was there before the romans? The romans called the area Judaea....land of the Jews. Before the Romans the Seleucid Empire had to deal with several uprisings led by.....the Jews (the maccabean revolt). Its not enirely accurate id say to say the jews just materialised in the region in the 1950s...

[–] Apepollo11 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The romans called the area Judaea....land of the Jews.

Just a quick correction here. Judaea is actually named after Judah, son of Jacob.

The word 'Jew' comes from the place name Judaea, not the other way around.

[–] Account5600 2 points 1 year ago

Ooh i didnt know that TIL

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