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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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[–] zeppo 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems reasonable to me. It’s strange to me how these people hate US liberals, never say a word about US conservatives, and love Russia and China, despite none of those things being in line with their professed beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't be pro worker and pro China, the literal sweatshop nation.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankies go out of their way to defend an absolute hereditary monarchy just because the Kim Dynasty says they are communist, defending China is nothing in comparison. They are the same kind of idiots as the ones that fell for the "Sozialistische Arbeiterpartei" (socialist workers party) part of the NSAPD's (aka Nazi party) name.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

North Korea isn't a monarchy. It's a necrocracy. Officially the first Kim is still leader, despite being dead.

[–] RedAggroBest 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a theocracy with extra steps

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It basically is.

Weird mix between Fascism, and Theocracy.

Interesting read on this:

The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves and Why it Matters is a 2010 book by Brian Reynolds Myers. Based on a study of the propaganda produced in North Korea for internal consumption, Myers argues that the guiding ideology of North Korea is a race-based far-right nationalism derived from Japanese fascism, rather than any form of communism. The book is based on author's study of the material in the Information Center on North Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cleanest_Race

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It has layers, like onions, and green ogres.

[–] NOT_RICK 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re not talking about liberals in the way the word is used in contemporary American politics, they’re using the classical definition of liberal which fits most mainstream Americans be them democrats or republicans.

[–] zeppo 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, I understand that distinction, but their philosophy doesn't make sense or hold consistence even in that context. The highest scorn is reserved for the most socialist American politicians, and American conservatives are pretty much 100% in line with the politics of Russia, other than gun control. Also, it makes no sense to revere China and Russia due to their governments being communist 60 years ago, because they are not now. Most of the discussion seems to be about foreign policy with little regard given to workers' rights or economics.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's absurd.

The people running the show in Russia, are often the people who helped cause the catastrophic collapse of the USSR, along with all the suffering that caused.

I honestly don't get why people who go on about the ultra-rich and opposing capitalism, then support actual oligarch robber barons who's hobbies include raping underage girls, sitting on a whaleforeskin couch drinking overpriced champagne, and ruining countries from the safety of their goldplated super yaught.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly fuck all the shit from the bottom to the top.