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Israel was taken by surprise by the most ambitious operation Hamas has ever launched from Gaza.

The scale of what's been happening is unprecedented. Hamas breached the wire that separates Gaza from Israel in multiple places in the most serious cross-border attack Israel has faced in more than a generation.

It came a day after the 50th anniversary of the surprise attack by Egypt and Syria in 1973 that started a major Middle East war. The significance of the date will not have been lost on the Hamas leadership.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his country is at war and will exact a heavy price from its enemies.

Videos and photos of dead Israelis, civilians as well as soldiers, are all over social media.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001 35 points 1 year ago (24 children)

GB and the allies said, hey we'll put you here in Israel since 2000 years ago the Pharaohs made you slaves. Don't mind the people living here, they'll just move. They did the same thing with India and Pakistan. I wonder how the animosity between these groups started?

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Terrorism is not the means to combat this. Murdering and kidnapping civilians is never excusable.

[–] Appleseuss 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terrorism to one group is freedom fighting to another.

[–] SCB 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Freedom fighters don't gun down civilians at music festivals

This is not "freedom fighting"

[–] Custodian1623 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

disgusting that people defend this because "Israel bad." get a grip, Hamas would do the same to you if you were in their path.

[–] SCB 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I even largely agree with the claim "Israel bad." This is not how you get Israel to stop doing the bad things.

This is just totally fucked.

[–] Madison420 -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it has been for decades and decades but suddenly because Israel actually gets hurt for once in like what 60 fucking years it's a step too far.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When either side has murdered civilians, I have called that side out. Terrorism is not acceptable

[–] Madison420 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terrorism is a staple of human life and always has been. We've reduced that somewhat but it still remains.

This is simply what happens when you run an apartied state.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is child molestation and I don't tolerate that either

[–] Madison420 1 points 1 year ago

True enough but you're probably not complicit in your governments involvement in the middle East either.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If you truly believe this about yourself, go take a look at actual death rates between the two throughout the history of the conflict.

See how many orders of magnitude we're talking in terms of Palestinian deaths compared to Israeli.

Then, look at the statistics about how many of those Israelis were civilians vs. how many of the Palestinians were. Percentage-wise.

The IDF is wantonly murdering Palestinian civilians all of the time. Usually they respond by attacking IDF soldiers. Until this event. In general, one side is targeting civilians and it ain't Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're confusing "defending," with "explaining"

[–] Custodian1623 0 points 1 year ago

Anyone who unironically calls this "freedom fighting" is not merely explaining. Not happening in this comment chain but absolutely elsewhere on lemmy and social media

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