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The “cord cutting” trend cable execs spent a decade claiming was a fad just broke another round of new records. According to Leichtman Research, major cable TV providers lost another 1.7 million subscribers last quarter, as users flock to streaming, over the air TV, TikTok, or, you know, books. Roughly 17,700 customers cut the cord every single day during the second quarter of 2023.

Over the last year (Q2 ’22 to Q2 ’23) the traditional cable TV sector lost a whopping 5,360,000 customers, compared to 4,235,000 customer defections the year earlier. The current number of U.S. households that has a cable connection sits somewhere around 46 percent, down from 73% at the end of 2017.

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Historically, a big cable company like Comcast or Charter wasn’t too hurt by “cord cutting” because it could just jack up the cost of monopolized broadband access. And while that’s still generally true; here too cable giants are seeing increased competition from community broadband (co-ops, utilities, municipalities), 5G home wireless, and phone companies belatedly upgrading to fiber.

Interestingly though, streaming TV providers also wound up losing subscribers, albeit at a much slower rate:

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[–] reddig33 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I’m surprised the percentage is that high.

[–] radix 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have cable TV because Comcast is the only viable ISP in my area (for now) and they simply won't sell Internet without TV. It's either both, or deal with slow, spotty internet.

Can't wait for my city's fiber rollout to get to my neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and they simply won’t sell Internet without TV

too bad antitrust law isn't enforced on this illegal bundling

[–] shalafi 15 points 1 year ago

They get around it by saying they're not a monopoly, and they're not. You're perfectly free to get satellite internet and enjoy 900ms ping times.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

same here. i can pay 120 for cable tv and internet at 250mbps, or 100 for internet that is 50mbps.

but my town is a monopoly. i have zero other internet/cable choices.

[–] lemmy___user 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy crap, that almost double what I pay for a gigabit connection 🫠

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I pay just short of $200/mo, same situation, okay internet bundled with cable I never use, alternative is awful internet for not much less. No other options. And I live in a big city. Effective monopolies are hell.

[–] shalafi 0 points 1 year ago

LOL, just commented that you're free to enjoy satellite's speed-of-light delays.

[–] Old_Dude 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Must be a regional thing. Comcast has always had separate cable and intenet packages where I'm at.

[–] radix 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They definitely tailor their offers to the market. The minute work on the city network began, Comcast suddenly figured out how to quadruple speeds at a given price.

Pure coincidence, surely!

[–] The_v 9 points 1 year ago

Spectrum mysteriously upgraded my connection from 50mbs to 300mbs at no extra cost.

My neighborhood should be getting fiber in the next 2-3 years.

[–] shalafi 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mediacom has steadily increased for me, despite no hint of competition. As an ISP upgrades the gear at the headend (CMTS), it just makes sense to offer more and more. Why risk running customers to the competition, even if it's sketchy? Besides, offering the upgraded bandwidth costs them nothing, they already had to pay for updated hardware, and they're constantly working on the cable plant (outdoor infrastructure and last-mile stuff).

Caveat: More often than not you have to call and inquire. Last month I went from 250MB down to 1GB, and $10 off for the next year, just by asking about my bill.

It's really a good idea to call your ISP and phone company once a year or so. No disconnect threats, simply say, "I have some questions about my bill." If the rep has a deal they can throw you, they just hang it out there. Keeps 'em from getting bitched at. (Been there, been bitched, got the T-shirt.)

While we're at it, go buy a modem off eBay for $30 and tell your ISP to drop the rental fee. Make sure it's DOCSIS 3.1 and you're good to go. Go for used, people are always buying new modems to solve issues they think are modem related, and they almost never are. Oh, and grab a $5 modem at the thrift for an emergency backup! Again, make sure it's DOCSIS 3.0 or better (it almost certainly will be). Your ISP may not be able to support 2.0 any longer, not sure about that.

Caveat: Due to requiring "5 nines" reliability for 911 access, ISPs usually (always?) require that you use their gear if you have phone service. That's more a business thing, I doubt many consumers have ISP phones anymore.

SOURCE: Cable internet guy in a past life, in the field and on the phones, Mediacom, Cox and Wide Open West.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Tailor based on whether there is a market or just their own little local monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how to quadruple speeds at a given price.

The bill you for the new speed, They will burn you alive before you ever get half of it.

[–] shalafi 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's usually a local issue. After a free update to 1GB, I couldn't get a quarter of that. Updated my modem from DOCSIS 3.0 to 3.1 and doubled speed, but it was still only half. Tech jacked directly into my modem and got full speed, every test. I saw it with my own eyes, and I used to be a field tech.
It was a legit test.

Almost every issue I went into a home to investigate turned out to be a problem between the telephone pole (or underground pedestal) and the back of the modem. Even something silly, like the barrel in the wall plate, can make or break a connection.

I suspect my pfSense router isn't keeping up. It's a nice Netgate rack unit, but it's fairly old. Haven't tweaked on it yet. Also, got some squirrel chews on the arial, need that replaced before I bang my head.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have Comcast in the US. I am better off sending pigeons.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, who is watching cable anymore?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

old people who have been subscribers forever leave it on while they cook dinner, not really caring about the quality of programming, which is basically just filler anymore

[–] shalafi 6 points 1 year ago

LOL, I'm kinda old (52) and haven't had cable for 15+ years. If I wanted noise like that, I'd just hook up a cheap HD antenna and get a dozen free stations.

And it's so stupid easy to stream from your phone/tablet/laptop/whatever to any remotely modern TV, I just can't get my head around people paying for cable. I guess the sports people still need it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

-Older, more conservative people.
-People who watch sports who are not aware of other options.
-And people who have bundled services and either have to take the bundle.to get decent Internet speeds or who have persuasively priced bundles.

[–] GlitzyArmrest 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have cable, but know someone who does. The only reason they still have it is for sports broadcasts.

[–] baronvonj 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They must be going crazy hard on sports. Between ESPN+ (bundled with Disney+ and Hulu for $15 or $20 a month), PeacockTV ($6 a month), and Paramount+ ($6 a month) I get quite a bit of live sports thrown in with all that non-sports content for under $40 a month). You may say, but Fox Sports network! Well you can open an incognito window, go over to https://foxsports.com/live, and get an hour for free and you can [Google] Cast (I assume Airplay works but have no Apple devices) it to your TV. Just close the incognito window (all incognito windows for Chromium, not just the tab) and open a new one, your 1 hour starts over!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

ESPN+ doesn’t have their cable channels. Peacock and Paramount just stream what you can get free with an antenna.

[–] czech 6 points 1 year ago

Its cheaper for me to have TV + Internet than just internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This was my first thought as well.