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These guys fucking suck, no doubt, but I really prefer that we put the impetus on users to block communities they don't like rather than pursue total defederation
Being tolerant without limits not a good way to handle right wing trolls. Trusting right wing trolls to moderate themselves is, imo, not a route to success.
This comic, in my view, does a passable job of summarising the idea of the paradox of tolerance.
I mean we banned lemmygrad and bigotry is against our instance rules.
We banned lemmygrad? I'm not a fan of that either tbh
Tankies can get fucked too. Harmful ideas should not be platformed
I think that this is a harmful idea and the moderation team should ban you for it.
See how that can get out of hand? Who gets to decide what is a harmful idea?
I certainly wouldn't trust you to do it. Would you trust me to do it?
I think this is an incomprehensible idea and the moderation team should ban you for it. It'd be funny. Difficult_Bit_1339 makes the worst argument ever, asked to leave sh.itjust.works
Now you get it.
People being banned for their ideas is a dumb idea because the person who gets to decide what a dumb idea is is often an idiot and will make bad decisions.
You either ban Nazis and similar assholes or your community will be overrun by them, causing the good people to leave.
Prime example: Twitter right now.
The "muh free speech" "argument" doesn't hold in light of the fact, that this is a privately owned and operated platform at the full discretion of the admins. Free speech is a right to defend people from the government, not to enable every asshole to spew their shit into everyone's feed.
Free speech doesn't just mean protection from the government's suppression of speech, that's the 1st amendment to the US Constitution. The 1st amendment simply restricts the US government from abridging freedom of speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
You can curate your feed as you see fit. The block button will remove your ability to see anything that a person posts, you can even block entire communities so you never see anything. You're not asking for the ability to curate your own feed, you're asking for the ability to curate the feed of everyone who uses the same instance as you.
Guess what, not everyone lives in the US. We still have freedom of speech and this is legally relevant as a defense against the government. You can't force a private company or club or whomever, really, to give you a platform.
Maybe this comic will help you understand.
https://xkcd.com/1357/
I'm not trying to force anything. It's your position that things should be changed.