Hi, looking to move away from lemmy.world. not that my experience is not going well, it's just that in the last 2 months I've come to find what I want to see in the instance I'm part of. I simply want to check before making my choice information on defederation. I haven't pirated anything in the last few years, but seeing piracy go away from lemmy.world was a bit frustrating. I kind of want to see what I decide to see.

Thanks for reading me. If your curious I'm thinking of switching to slrpnk.net as a seeing everything that interest me in "Local" would be quite nice. And shitjustworks. Running on 99% renewable energy is a point that hits with me

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You specifically cite the example of piracy going away as a reason for wanting to compare instance's defederations, but that activity had nothing to do with defederation. Lemmy.world is still federated with the instances that hosted the piracy communities.

[–] Kyoyeou 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh really? Than what is the exact term? I was with family and didn't follow well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here are some basic definitions:

Instance: a Lemmy server with its collection of local users and local communities

Federation: allowing users of one instance the ability to participate and interact with the content and users of another instance

Defederation: "blocking" an entire instance and its users from participating and interacting with the content and users of another instance.

Every instance maintains a publicly visible "instances" list where you can see which instances are allowed/federated (listed as "Linked Instances" and which other instances are disallowed/defederated (listed as "Blocked Instances". That list is always at the same predictable URL for every instance ( https://[instance]/instances ). For Lemmy.World, that list would be at https://lemmy.world/instances.

Instances operators also have the ability to surgically block specific users or specific communities from other instances. This doesn't mean they have 'defederated', it just means they have blocked a specific use or instance. These are considered moderation activities and show up in an instance's moderation log (also called the "modlog"). Every instance's modlog is public and visible at the predictable URL of https://[instance]/modlog. For Lemmy.World, the modlog would be at https://lemmy.world/modlog. The modlog has a "filter by action" dropdown making it easy to find certain types of moderation activities. If you search the modlog for "removing communities" you can see the communities that an instance has removed or blocked.

In the case of the piracy communities, they were removed from Lemmy.world, but federation still exists between Lemmy.world and the other instances where those blocked communities still exist.

[–] Kyoyeou 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain it in detail, that's very kind of you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They're still federated with the instances, they've just blocked those particular communities for any user to see or interact with through Lemmy.world.

So for example, [email protected] should still be there.

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