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For some women in China, "Barbie" is more than just a movie — it's also a litmus test for their partner's views on feminism and patriarchy.

The movie has prompted intense social media discussion online, media outlets Sixth Tone and the China Project reported this week, prompting women to discuss their own dating experiences.

One user on the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu — a photo-sharing site similar to Instagram that's mostly used by Gen Z women — even shared a guide on Monday for how women can test their boyfriends based on their reaction to the film.

According to the guide, if a man shows hatred for "Barbie" and slams female directors after they leave the theatre, then this man is "stingy" and a "toxic chauvinist," according to Insider's translation of the post. Conversely, if a man understands even half of the movie's themes, "then he is likely a normal guy with normal values and stable emotions," the user wrote.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Krystal Ball on breaking points mentioned it just wasn't a great movie and kinda ham fisted pseudo-feminism.

Idk haven't watched it, wife and I are both just like "meh"

[–] MrSqueezles 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

There's literal direct to frame exposition about expectations for appearance put on women by Barbie. Meanwhile, a fucking ripped and constantly flexing Ryan Gosling spends 90% of the movie shirtless. Yes, it's completely ham fisted and spends most of its time justifying its existence and letting you know it understands itself when it clearly doesn't.

[–] MooseLad 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did you somehow miss the entire exposition near the end of the movie? The Kens learn to respect themselves, do what they like, and learn to be themselves instead of attaching their identity to macho bullshit and how Barbie views them. It was a pretty big scene. Gosling comes to grips that Barbie doesn't love him the way he wants and that he shouldn't value himself based on how she feels about him. He even covers up with a tie dye "I'm Kenough" hoodie, ditching his fake persona.

[–] MrSqueezles -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You got me. I totally missed the part where Kens trick Barbies into quitting their jobs and fetching beers, Barbies rescue Barbies from Kens, Barbies rescue Kens from Kens, then explain to the audience, "This whole time, you felt bad for Ken, but it was the most transparently veiled simile for how women are treated in society, so don't feel bad for Ken having no purpose or agency in Barbieland. Feel guilty about women in the real world."

Let's put this together. What's wrong with women? Men are unfair to women (Will Farrel) and the patriarchy (America Ferrera) and objectify women (construction workers) and set unfair expectations (by running the company making Barbie) etc and it's literally all men. What's wrong with men? Men. Men are the problem because they only care about beer and horses and suppressing women and can't do anything right, especially running Barbieland. This movie is dumb. I mean, it's either unimaginably sexist or dumb. I choose to believe it's stupidity that caused the filmmakers to lack any type of self reflection.

[–] MooseLad 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow media literacy is truly dead. First of all it's satire. Everything is elevated to such ridiculous levels to poke fun at society. They're not saying all men care about is hummers and horses. They fail at running Barbieland because the only thing they care about continues to be impressing Barbie and winning her approval. I think you were just looking for something to be mad about or weren't paying attention if you think that was where the film landed on men and their role in society. You seem to have a very shallow understanding of the film and you need to give it another watch.

Ryan Gosling's Ken has one of the best arcs in the entire film. He goes from being obsessed, needy, and subservient to being a competitive, stereotypical bro, confusing machismo with self confidence, and finally along with all the other Ken's realizes that all he needs is to be himself. No competition, no flexing, no being reliant on others to feel good about himself. He gains awareness of the world and the feelings of others around him. No, by the end of the film he doesn't find his purpose, but he is now in a place where he can explore himself and find it.

[–] MrSqueezles 0 points 1 year ago

What's wrong is the disparity between the arcs of Barbie and Ken, a disparity that isn't unique to this movie, but is especially stark. Barbie goes on a journey of self realization and actualization. Ken goes on a journey of becoming a huge dong so he can get put back in his place and schooled by Barbie. I would rather he have no agency at all and focus on Barbie than this heavy handed, exposition heavy, wet noodle of a delivery.

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