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The memes of the climate

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The climate of the memes of the climate!

Planet is on fire!

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[–] nomadjoanne -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Well if the people who really claim that humanity is heading for extinction really thought so in their heart of hearts, they'd be willing to make compromises and work with the capitalist system and those who disagree with them economically to steer civilization away from mass extinction. They'd say "Ok, fine, you're a libertarian (or whatever), how can we come together and make a deal to turn this ship again."

And yet they don't.

[–] hark 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does compromise with a death cult ever work? Whether they're racists, fascists, religious zealots, capitalist profiteers, or any other group that devalues human life, it doesn't seem like compromise works or is even a possibility.

[–] nomadjoanne 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? Ancient civilizations didn't much value human life. They didn't emit much CO2 at all. They're very much two separate things.

As I said to another person here, most of the neo-liberal governments of the world are very much trying to cut emissions. They value human life much more tham ancient civilizations or modern communist countries have.

[–] hark 0 points 1 year ago

Speaking of separate things, my post was about compromise, not CO2 emissions, but don't let that get in the way of your enlightened capitalist proselytizing. Neo-liberal governments are setting goals that are convenient to capital (i.e. too little too late) while failing to even hit those goals and also bending rules (e.g. we reduced emissions by moving polluting manufacturing overseas, as if the pollution is not happening on the same planet).

[–] Crispy_Mate 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to find a common ground when the other person is not believing in climat change or that we have to do anything and it will not magically sort it self out.

[–] nomadjoanne -1 points 1 year ago

Really? Because most of the large countries of the world are very much trying to cut emissions. But They're not communists. They're by and large neo-liberal.

[–] RecursiveParadox 5 points 1 year ago

That reply is, frankly, both stupid and ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No one listenend to those people, the issue has been known at least for the last 50 years, there was enough time for compromises, but nearly nobody cared.

So now we're here.

If I believed that our current system will be the cause for the extinction of my species, how could I still make a compromise with someone who still lives and thinks like it's 1960?