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[–] nomadjoanne 21 points 1 year ago (44 children)

No, it is not. It is brutal in many ways. But that it is not. Neither is socialomswor communism.

Pyramid schemes are zero-sum. I steal and gain, you lose. Capitalism and even communism are not zero-sum games. They are net-positive. They involve people making goods and services for others.

[–] Ysysel 3 points 1 year ago (18 children)

If we take into consideration the destruction of the ecosystems necessary to sustain human life, capitalism is a net-negative.

[–] nomadjoanne 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Incredible that you can say that seriously. Human development and civilization causes ecosystem destruction. The particular economic system may affect the specifics of how this happens not whether or not it does.

[–] Ysysel 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Capitalism means always looking for more profits. Endless efforts of private owners to expand and increase their profits leads to the perpetual circle of suproduction and overconsumption which destroy ressources and ecosystems.

This particular system is the main reason it's happening.

[–] havokdj 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you honestly think a communist or socialist society which is wealthy would be any healthier for the environment than a capitalist one that is also wealthy?

We have been destroying the planet long before economy was a concept.

[–] Ysysel 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A socialist or communist society could be healthier. Not saying it automatically would be. The only people theorizing a sustainable economy are on the (far) left though.

And the last 50 years proved that sustainability is impossible in a capitalist system. It hinders profits, and the basis of capitalism is: always more profits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A socialist society would be better for the environment because all the people would starve /s

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