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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That Trump is neither conservative (in any way) nor cares at all about any traditional Republican values

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump and MAGA are regressive. They are hell-bent on taking this country back to the first half of the 20th century, in all the worst possible ways.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh. Mid 20th century? But that’s when America transitioned to relatively high and progressive income taxes instead of relying on tariffs. It’s also when massive state spending on education lead to a large chunk of Americans being able to care about something other than themselves, a precursor to progressivism in America and the civil rights movement.

If anything, I think Americans appear to want to go back to the Gilded Age, known for its massive inequality, corruption, and excessive-wealth-flaunting.

[–] straightjorkin 2 points 1 day ago

He recently said something about the 20s and 30s. That's when he considered America great, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most of them don't even know what they want. They're told what to think and simply can't process anything on their own. Argue with one and you'll be hard pressed to find an original thought, just regurgitations of what they've been told by fox news.

[–] straightjorkin 3 points 1 day ago

I've noticed this in that they can't think of their own problems. They say "they're teaching kids to be trans in school" but don't talk to their actual kids about what they're actually learning. They say "the inflation makes it impossible to buy groceries!" And they show the groceries with 3 cases of Mt dew because they don't want to think about budgeting. They say "immigrants are taking our jobs" and live in rural Missouri where there's 1 Latino in town. They aren't thinking of problems that actually effect them, they think of the problems fox news tells them to think about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Perhaps it would be useful to build up from basics, asking them what issues actually affect their own life, and hopefully avoid all the hyperreality* culture wars of the media.

* https://assets.ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/05/Causes-of-death-in-USA-vs.-media-coverage.png

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree and disagree.

I believe he doesn't actually care for anything but himself. He is racist and classist and what else. But I don't think it dictates his politics as much as you might would assume. He wants power and through his own racism, he released that "vague" racism works, but mostly the creation of the "others".

But I think his activities are deeply based in traditional republican values. That is why project 2025 exists. Republican think Tanks created it. You could argue that those aren't republican values but e.g. they pushed for a horrible school system for decades. Trump doesn't actually care about it, but he follows the plan because it aligns with government deregulation which he likes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

To your second point, I think you're somewhat right about that. However it's a weird mix of traditional Republican values and this new Nationalism. Republicans were traditionally for a small federal government (except military of course)