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I had a discussion/argument in ~2018 with a friend who is/was very anti-trump. I brought up the dangers of ICE and how, at the time, they were the biggest sign of an overtly fascist future. He immediately handwaved it and dismissed me as crazy.
He's got a degree in history education and was obsessed with WW2 history, so I didn't think this would be a point of contention. But for a lot of liberals (including him) Fascists have to literally be wearing a swastika before they're called what they are. Some won't even acknowledge the existence of a Nazi Salute when they see one.
Even today he's obsessed with Trump as the single anomaly in US politics and doesn't see the bigger picture.
A force like ice is necessary though. Unregulated immigration does result in issues in the receiving country;that only works when 2 countries are economically similar. It's their use that's indictive of faciam rather than their existence imo