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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1800563

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/straw-poll-on-your-preferences-about-opt-in-opt-out-for-possible-data-collection/85675/2

This poll is a bit hard to understand but essentially you could vote for multiple options, the highest opt-out option is at 26%, meaning 74% of people oppose this idea.

The original proposal is at 16%, for a jarring 84% disapproval rate.

Despite overwhelming negative feedback, Red Hat is currently drafting a revised proposal.

But what about Red Hat?

This is the link to the proposal: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry#Privacy-preserving_Telemetry_for_Fedora_Workstation

These parts are all interesting and contradict some people who argue Red Hat has no hand in this issue:

Name: Michael Catanzaro Email: <mcatanzaro@redhat.com>

and

The Red Hat Display Systems Team (which develops the desktop) proposes to enable limited data collection of anonymous Fedora Workstation usage metrics.

and

It is Fedora Legal's obligation to ensure our data collection complies with legal requirements in the jurisdictions in which Red Hat operates

and

Occasionally, Red Hat might need to collect specific metrics to justify additional time spent on contributing to Fedora or additional investment in Fedora.

The quotes above were handpicked. There are 7 matches for "Red Hat" in the link above, not counting the email address.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Let me get this straight. You're bitching because the community voted against it, so in response they're rewriting the proposal to better align with community feedback? Man, I swear, there are some whiny assholes abound right now.

Everyone knows that the initial request WAS FROM RED HAT! There is no bombshell here. What is with all of this dramatic flair?

[–] cleric_splash 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everyone knows that the initial request WAS FROM RED HAT!

No, no, no. "Fedora is independent" and "Red Hat has nothing to do with this" were the main arguments used by pro-Telemetry groups in any discussion threads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If some people were ill-informed and spreading that nonsense, that is on them. Not saying you are outright wrong, but I personally never saw any folks trying to make the argument. My recollection is that everyone knew this request came from Red Hat, and you could definitely easily see who submitted the proposal the entire time.

It's amazing that even though it's clear there was no steamrolling of this, you are still pissed that it was simply proposed.

We have enough real drama in the Linux community, we don't need manufactured stuff like this.

[–] cleric_splash 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but I personally never saw any folks trying to make the argument.

That is because you don't look at any of these threads, as they generally carry an anti-Red Hat connotation, something you don't want to see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which threads are you pointing to? Anti-Red Hat sentiment is the opposite of trying to make false claims that Red Hat had nothing to do with it.