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[–] minorkeys 12 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Leaders don't care about you or me. If we collectively can't get off our lazy assess and force changes to happen that benefit us, they won't. It's really that simple. The working class needs to take responsibility for civilization back from politicians and corporations or well all continue to be genocided by the greed of a relatively few powerful human beings.

[–] Serinus 5 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Leaders don’t care about you or me.

Too broad. Bernie clearly cares. Lots of politicians care. Not all, of course.

The problem is that not enough people care to figure out which is which. And somehow Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan keep getting reelected.

[–] minorkeys 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not really too broad. There are aspiring leaders who might care but they don't end up leading. Bernie doesn't seem to ever end up leading much does he? Business leaders keep choosing political leaders. It's leaders everywhere, not just political leadership. People who run things don't seem to give a shit about anyone but themselves and they meddle in everything to make sure leaders help them first and foremost. Half the political class also is the business class so...

Also one exception tends to prove the rule. The vast majority of our leaders, political and business, religious and cultural, are horrible fucking people who only do good when forced to and we have utterly failed as a citizenry to make sure they do.

[–] Serinus 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AOC and Bernie and at least a couple dozen others are certainly not the choice of business. Sherrod Brown, Rashida Tlaib, Elizabeth Warren, Tim Walz, etc. The problem is that we have the attention span for maybe 12 names. The business cabals research and promote every name.

If you're not researching your ballot at the least every time you can vote, then you're contributing to the problem. Ideally you're also spot checking some key votes and doing some deeper research into the vote topics that you're particularly knowledgeable or interested in for spot checking.

Personally, I remember fewer names and have a bit easier time because I'm always voting against 90% of my incumbents. But you can't just say things like "vote out all incumbents" and think that's helpful. They're really not all bad.

[–] minorkeys 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And nobody you listed has been in positions of significant leadership. The DNC stopped populist Bernie, Pelosi is shuttering AOC, none of them has been close to DNC leadership roles let alone the presidency. Bernie came into the DNC with his own political clout he built from outside the DNC which is the only reason he is where he is. DNC leadership actively suppresses changes in top leadership.

My point isn't that good people don't exist it's that the systems we have seem to actively and aggressively prevent them from gaining any real power. Good people are a threat to the way things are being done and less than good people keep it that way.

[–] Serinus 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the systems we have seem to actively and aggressively prevent them from gaining any real power.

Primarily by not getting enough votes. And those systems are advertisements, PACs, and control of the media.

If we could counter those systems, we'd have a pretty good shot at fixing it.

[–] Serinus 2 points 3 days ago

There are absolutely certain, very select places we should look at primaries to get more progressive candidates. Places like the West Virginia seat in the Senate held by a "Democrat" isn't on that list, for example.

We should be very careful about which places we want to primary. The neolib-leaning Dems are not the primary problem in this country. They're a relatively small (in comparison) factor.

My ideal is that the Dems win so much that the Republicans stop being a competitive party. One party rule isn't going to last long. We'd have the same kind of infighting that either party has now when they get control, and if the "one party" thing lasted long enough, it'd split. THAT would be the time to gear up against the neolibs.

I understand this is a slow, frustrating process. And who knows if we can even keep traction to get started. But most importantly I'm sick of our getting stuck in the mud and deciding that the problem is that we're not slamming the pedal hard enough.

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