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A good example is https://lemmy.world/c/documentaries

One of their mods, https://lemmy.world/u/sabbah, currently mods 54 communites despite only being on Lemmy for about a month and has never posted on c/documentaries (except for his post asking for people to join his mod team).

The other mod, https://lemmy.world/u/AradFort, has one post to c/documentaries and moderates 18 communities.

Does Lemmy.World have a plan to remove this kind of cancer before we start getting reddit supermods here too?

Edit: This comment shows how this is even more dangerous than I had thought.

Edit2: Official answer from LW admin is here

Final: Was going to create an issue for this on the Lemmy github, but I browsed for awhile and found that it had already been done. If anyone wants to continue the discussion there, here it is - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3452

Perhap we need another issue for the problem in the original edit (It being impossible currently to remove a 'founding' mod without destroying either the community of their account)

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[–] Izzy 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Having a rule against the mass creation of communities with malicious intent is not a big ask in my opinion. Or in the event of an abandoned community. This isn't some kind of quirk of instance policy, but a thing that will happen on all instances and should be dealt with by all instances. Otherwise the instance will be seen as lacking administration.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish a user could only register 1 community/magazine. And to register more, at least some time should pass and maybe requires at least minimum of certain "Reputation Points" and follower. I don't believe this is the best solution, but better than a wild west, and it would slow down the register spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. One of the biggest problems with lemmy is the spammed low quality stuff like posts and communities. It needs soul! Your solution would help.

[–] InvaderDJ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having a rule against the mass creation of communities with malicious intent is not a big ask in my opinion.

How would you define malicious intent and how would that apply to the situation OP is talking about?

[–] Izzy 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just making a community and doing nothing is malicious in my opinion. If you had no intention of engaging in the community you made that is malicious intent.

[–] InvaderDJ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if they post garbage to keep “active” in their subs? How do you mandate what even counts as garbage or actual engagement on a sub that someone else created? And now do you make a rule that is clear and repeatable on that?

That’s the problem when it comes to power mods. Determining which are malicious versus those that are good stewards is hard to legislate.

The best way I can think of would be to make a rule saying you can only mod a certain amount of subs and if you try to evade the limit by making bots or alt accounts, you get banned.

That will of course be easy enough for the most determined to get past. But I can’t think of any other way to reign in this behavior without incentivizing worse behavior like posting garbage to stay “active”.

[–] Izzy 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well they aren't posting garbage. They are posting nothing. Not even elsewhere on Lemmy. So we could cross that road when it comes to that.

[–] InvaderDJ 2 points 1 year ago

Fair. I’m just thinking about the inevitable conclusion. Everyone wants to avoid garbage power mods but I can see that any real fix will be difficult and could bring it vague, arbitrarily applied rules and mods trying to avoid limits by flooding with garbage.

Maybe it will be different here. But I just see it as an inevitability of user created subs and user moderation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There really should be some sort of mechanism for appeal, a way to submit a request to the server admin and have them look at it. Someone rolling up, making 50 communities and never moderating it or allowing comment seems like roadblock to me

[–] Candelestine -1 points 1 year ago

If you could prove malicious intent I'd be fine with this. But a whole bunch of internet people claiming malice is nothing new, nor is it very good evidence.