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[–] [email protected] 318 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Damn that FDA and their suppression of...*checks list...sunshine?

Was the solar eclipse an inside job?!?

[–] Dasus 103 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think it's like the FDA having just reasonable guidelines on how much UV you can safely be exposed to. RFKJR prolly thinks sun lotion prevents all the healthiness from the sun and crystallises your amygdala or something along those lines.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's Vitamin D. There was this whole thing during the COVID pandemic about how the FDA/CDC were SUSPICIOUSLY QUIET about how impactful Vitamin D levels were on COVID outcomes or something and how that's how you know that... something something sinister ulterior motives.

So like the idea was that everybody going outside and getting some sun was actually the best thing for public health, but THEY were telling you to languish inside under lockdowns, because clearly they didn't want you to be healthy.

[–] Resonosity 4 points 3 days ago

It's funny because I remember specific provisions for allowing people to go outside for exercise lmao

[–] Dasus 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know it's Vitamin D you get from the sun, but for instance exposing yourself to sun that requires sun lotion, you're still getting all the vitamin D you can use.

Idk this might be a bullshit stat, but here in Finland you here all sorts of things about vitamin D and sunshine, so iirc, I think like 15 minutes in the sun already gives you your daily dose of vitamin D.

So it's not exactly a good reason to lift the lockdown when people can just go out to walk their dog and have all the benefits that one can get from the sun. It's not like sun worshipping yourself until you look like a two-day old hotdog is anything healthy. The sort of tanning RFK JR seems to have practiced. I had a friend (woman) who just loved suntanning. Like crazy much. And smokes. She wasn't too bad looking when I worked with her, but god she's gonna look like wrinkled leather in 10 years.

[–] Valmond 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just to chime in, vitamin D deficiency is extremely common:

Recent large observational data have suggested that ~40% of Europeans are vitamin D deficient, and 13% are severely deficient [2]

Study with source

Vitamin D deficiency has also been linked to dementia and other bice diseases. I bet 15 minutes sunlight won't cut it and sunbathing gives you skin cancer in the long run, so get some supplements people!

[–] Dasus 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it is. And even moreso here in the Nordics.

I take a vitamin D supplement every day. Especially in the winter.

I quickly googled and a Finnish article says that during summertime, wearing just shorts, you can get your daily amount half an hour. But that's midsummer sun and midday.

But in countries where it's more intense...

Anyway, supplementation is definitely necessary for most people, especially during winter.

[–] Valmond 5 points 5 days ago

Swedish here, but I live in France.

Modern day people are often stuck inside (of the car, house, office) during daylight times.

Also, when you get a sunburn in 20 minutes you avoid the sun when you are outside...

So yeah, supplements FTW!

[–] Olhonestjim 68 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's quite likely a belief that sunscreen lotion is a bad thing that harms people. Found that one out from an old high school crush from FL. She looks like leather now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There was a finding a few years ago that while preventing skin cancer, sunscreen was also causing people in some places to get less vitamin d which was increasing instances of colon cancer. The solution isn't banning sunscreen, it's making sure people get some small amount of sun or supplements vitamin d.

Being from Oz I never really considered issues with vitamin d until I moved to the UK for a few years and discovered that limited vitamin d is a real problem in winter. Im not sure on the deficiency you need for colon cancer but a few weeks of little to no Sun really messes with your head and body.

[–] TheRealKuni 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Being from Oz

Did the Wicked movie get the look right? It seems like a fun place apart from all the fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

The book did it better =)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"There are a lot of ingredients in cosmetics, hair care and sunscreen that can act as endocrine mimickers in a lab, meaning they kind of act like a hormone," Waldman explains.
But He stresses that, when it comes to chemical sunscreen ingredients, the potential link largely comes from animal studies that likely don't translate to humans. For instance, in many studies, researchers are feeding large amounts of these ingredients to mice, He explains, which is "not really comparable to a human situation."

EDIT: So no, no they don't in humans.

[–] grue 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s quite likely a belief that sunscreen lotion is a bad thing that harms people.

I mean, it halfway is:

  • "Sunscreen" -- stuff with a decently high SPF rating -- is a good thing that prevents cancer.

  • "Suntan lotion" -- usually glorified coconut oil with fuck-all SPF rating -- is a bad thing that harms people.

  • "Sunscreen lotion" -- a confused amalgamation of the previous terms -- is not a thing and only misleads people by conflating good things with harmful ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"Sunscreen lotion" -- a confused amalgamation of the previous terms -- is not a thing and only misleads people

So confidently stated yet so very wrong. Citation - an example that's available nationwide: https://no-ad.com/product/spf-85-sunscreen-lotion-3-oz/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

'Lotion' implies that it's moisturiser-based, not that it has any tanning properties.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When was the last time your big FDA doctor told you to sun your butthole? Why would they hide that from you?

[–] meeeeetch 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because your dermatologist isn't used to checking for skin cancer where the sun don't shine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Big FDA not training them on the butthole