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Urban areas account for 80% of the US population. This only fell from 80.7% in 2010, despite the fact that the minimum population for something to be considered "urban" doubled from 2500 residents to 5000 (under the previous criteria, this would have been an increase). That's not to mention that there's nothing stopping rural towns under 5000 people from having adequate micromobility infrastructure, like I mentioned. If your kid is walking home from somewhere, unless they legitimately got stranded somehow in bumfuck nowhere, chances are they're within biking distance.
The kind of "rural" you're probably thinking of where someone lives two miles out into the country is basically a rounding error. Please stop using it as a magical incantation to shut down discussion of reasonable public transit and safe and efficient micromobility.
I'm not disputing the benefits of public transit.
I take public transit EVERY DAY. I loved my time city hopping in Europe. I want that SO badly for north america. I'm a very vocal proponent.
I grew up in a rural area. Our small area tried earnestly several times to get a bus route going. First with old school buses and then with some old city buses. They just couldn't make it work. The population density just couldn't support it.
My issue, as someone with their feet in two canoes, as they say, is with the mentality that rural populations are rounding areas unworthy of discussion or consideration. Broad statements that erase rural existence is alienating to these admittedly small percentages, but is alienating nonetheless
Then what's your perspective on the specific issue of this thread? You say your opinion is being erased... but all you've said so far is "I exist". Which... okay? What impact would that have on literally anything related to this?
I take public transit EVERY DAY. I loved my time city hopping in Europe. I want that SO badly for north america. I'm a very vocal proponent.
So... you just wanted to be heard, but had no actual input to give?
I mean, my input was that I think it's shitty to suggest that things are complete solutions to any societal issue when it requires ignoring massive swathes of the total population.
I think it's shitty when it comes up to double down and say those people don't matter.
I think it's shitty to say "well they chose that so fuck em"
Like, can you imagine saying "fuck people in Flint MI, they want safe drinking water they shouldn't live in Flint, they chose this."
So, I mean, that's my point.
Yeah, but that was the point you made after someone responded to your initial comment, and has literally no bearing on the discussion at hand. Except in a "but all lives matter" kind of way.
The irony here is that saying "Black Lives Matter" roots out who secretly hate about 20 percent of the population. They hear it and they just can't keep their mouths shut, right?
I'M the one in your analogy saying Black Lives Matter. I'M the one saying that there is a minority group worthy of consideration. Everyone tripping over themselves to explain to me why rural people amount to, and I quote "a rounding error" are the people who are behaving like bigots.