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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 148 points 5 days ago (121 children)

There sure are a lot of people trying to blame the left because their strategy of appealing to the middle failed.

[–] TheFonz -1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm not convinced the left was ever going to show up for any candidate. They're already castigating Bernie, of all people. They've already purged AOC.

From what I learned it seems there is absolutely no limit to the amount of purity testing that seems to happen on the left. In the meantime, Republicans are marching us lockstep into direct fascism. So we can't get anything done because none of the dnc candidates are perfect. Meanwhile, Republicans literally have no standards.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Um. Leftists vote at the highest rate of any polity.

There's just not many of us.

The DNCs "standards" weren't impressive to millions of center / center-left voters who voted for Biden.

Probably because they nakedly shilled themselves to anyone with a checkbook. Had no stances, offered no solutions, and came across as wildly out of touch.

Imagine how a tax credit for first time home buyers sounds to someone who can't afford groceries.

[–] TheFonz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're kind of proving my point. We're now left with the alternative. Again: because we couldn't be bothered to show up to vote. That home buyer tax credit was one of many policies. Like the child tax credit was a really big deal. But again, here we are tearing her platform apart while the repubs are marching lockstep.

Trump gets to coast on the guarantee that his base will show up no matter any-thing. He is most vile person that ever held office (maybe Jackson is up there with him). But the DNC candidate has to thread carefully and reach near perfection or else face endless barrage of criticism from within.

The two parties seem to have vastly different standards and that's why we can never move further left. The right wins on every turn regardless while the left is sticking their nose up because the DNC candidate is just never left enough.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes when you cultivate a brainwashed mob of barely literate hateful fools you can manipulate them pretty easily.

Frankly I've abandoned democracy. We aren't responsible enough to keep it and it's grown too onerous to manage. It's a garden that has overgrown our house. I doubt what's coming will be better but hatching is rarely a good thing from the viewpoint of the eggshell.

[–] TheFonz 2 points 4 days ago

Right. But unfortunately that's our reality. We have to build up. If we ever want to move that Overton window... well now it jumped ten steps to the right. It doesn't go back and forth between each cabinet. It just keeps sliding into the right because again: the right has no standards and is happy to march in lockstep while we quibble over which progressive policy just isn't good enough.

I fear we deserve to watch the nation burn because like you said, democracy requires vigilance

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