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[–] homesweethomeMrL 116 points 1 week ago (24 children)

The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders on Thursday announced that it is suing the social media company X, accusing it of spreading disinformation.

After Reporters Without Borders, or RSF, discovered that it was the target of a disinformation campaign this past summer, the Paris-based group filed 10 reports of policy violations with X, formerly known as Twitter.

Since none of the posts in question have been removed, RSF opted to sue the company in French courts “for its complicity in disseminating false information, misrepresentation and identity theft,” the group said in a statement.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

Ok maybe a very stupid question but

The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders on Thursday announced

Isn't that gramatically incorrect? Shouldn't it be "The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders announced on Thursday"?

I see this kind of writing a lot in news articles so surely it's not actually wrong, but that's not how I was taught English writing.

[–] stoly 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Dialect variation. For me, saying “the car needs washed” sounds truly strange but millions and millions of people say it. You’re experiencing similar with this phrase.

[–] JWBananas 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the car needs washed

Is there a name/term for this abomination? I've only ever heard one person speak in that form (omitting "to be"), and it has haunted me ever since.

[–] stoly 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think you’d call this elision. Assume that the phrase is originally “the car needs to be washed” but you cut out “to be”, making it into a shorter form. It’s pretty common in language to shorten things to make it faster to speak. Think of the endless contractions in English or perhaps leaving part of a sentence completely unspoken because the content is easily assumed by the interlocutors.

[–] JWBananas 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Worse, to me, is that there is a perfectly grammatically correct way to be just as brief.

Wrong:

The bed sheets need washed.

Right:

The bed sheets need washing.

[–] stoly 1 points 6 days ago

And for a linguist the question is really whether there are native speakers who consider it correct. Here there are millions who say yes.

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