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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by erev to c/nostupidquestions
 

I will preface this by saying I understand that I am more radical, revolutionary, and extreme of a leftist than most. Despite that, I still ask that you actually engage with this as I'm asking in good faith.

When is enough enough? We have elected a fascist into the highest office and handed the keys to him and his friends. Is now not the time to actually get organized, involved, and armed? In my opinion, the time for peaceful, democratic means of avoiding fascism was before the election. But we have failed to do so, and as such there will soon be a tyrant in power. Are we going to wait until troops are rolling down the street to stage any form of resistance, because by then it's far too late. Now I want to be clear that I am not advocating for random acts of violence or an insurrection like January 6th. But is this not a point of radicalization? Is this not where we start organizing within our communities and getting involved in mutual aid and resistance? How much more do we need before people are actually ready to stand, fight, and maybe even die to avoid continuing down the path that we are on? Fascism is not on the horizon, it is here. Are we really to do nothing about it as a society except lay down and accept our fate? Because that doesn't jive with me. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

ETA: To the people responding, I will admit that I was heated and frustrated when writing this post. Having had time to cool off, reflect, and get some differing viewpoints my stance has changed to focus more on what needs to happen first and what's practical. You may have seen that in my responses. That being said, I don't disagree with what I said here, and I'm still frustrated we're at this point at all. I've linked a comment though that elaborates upon what I actually want to see done though, which is a lot more reasonable and is still inline with this post.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13305217

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

I'm not an American, but I can't help but notice something:

A clear majority elected Trump. Over 71 million Americans went out of their way to vote for him, saying "I am proud to be a Nazi."

If you are going to fight (either figuratively or physically), then understand that a majority of the USA supports a fascist state.

[–] Hildegarde 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (22 children)

71 million in a country of 262 million adults. 27% voted for fascism. 74 million voted for trump in 2020. This wasn't a shift towards fascism, but the opposition party utterly failing to win voters.

The country has never been majority rule. Every modern election has split the country in thirds, about a third votes one way, a third votes the other and a third choses not to vote.

Over 70% of voting aged americans did not vote for trump.

edit: spelling correction.

[–] asdfasdfasdf 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We should give people tax breaks if they vote.

[–] Hildegarde 3 points 2 weeks ago

republicans do voter suppression and purge voter roles. victims of either of these practices would be punished with a larger tax burden. not ideal.

voting should be compulsory

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