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The probe hones in on one of Tesla's most eyebrow-raising decisions when it comes to its driver assistance package: the insistence on exclusively relying on camera sensors instead of LiDAR and radar like its competitors, which CEO Elon Musk has long derided as a "crutch."

In 2022, the company went all-in on cameras, ditching ultrasonic sensors in its vehicles altogether — a decision that could prove to be a major mistake as it struggles to catch up with its competition and has now promised robust self-driving capabilities to owners who may lack the necessary sensor hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

I can see the argument that visible light should be enough given we humans can drive with just two eyes and a few mirrors. However that argument probably misses the millions of years of evolution of our neural networks have gone through while hunting and tracking threats that happens to make predicting where other cars might be mostly fine.

I have a feeling regulators aren't going to be happy with a claim of driving better than the average human. FSD should be aiming to be at least 10x better than the best human drivers and we're a long way off from that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Self driving cars should be flawless and personally, as someone who does not have any professional experience in tech, I do not understand why you'd ever rely on human senses to act as sensors for a machine. We can't even see all the colors, why would you not give this thing like four different versions of detecting things? If I have a self driving car I want a fuckin radar on my windshield that knows where every object within 40 feet is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

ha, naw. they only need to be better than humans. if the computers kill 10% less people, its a win. unless you want those 10% dead for some reason..

[–] DarkSurferZA 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, not a legit argument. Augmented human driving is way safer than autonomous cars. Fun fact, the half assed approach to autonomy used in Tesla's are pretty shit, even by human standards.

Augmented driver assistance systems such as accident avoidance, preemptive braking and seatbelt tensioning systems still outperform current generation "fully" autonomous cars. The fact that we let billionaires develop their tech, for profit, in production (on the road), with a direct cost to human life, should always be a problem.

If he really wants to change the world, pay for the damn R&D, then deploy to the roads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

luckily we can do more than one thing at a time implementing where each makes the most sense.

everyone keeps saying 'no! its this one thing or dont bother!' no, thats not how progress is made.

im not arguing for tesla, tesla is objectively garbage.

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