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[–] finitebanjo 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They're saying Israel is a US Colony and that Athiests are frauds, particularly Bill Maher for quoting the bible.

Personally, I think OP and this Medhi Hasan guy can fuck right off, Religion is literally the cause of all of this and thousands of years of conflict in that region on top of that.

[–] voracitude 25 points 1 month ago

Not "atheists". "The New Atheists": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Atheism

And he's not saying that Israel is a US colony, at all. He's saying Zionism as an ideology is centred around colonialism in the classic British sense of the word, e.g. "take other people's shit by force".

Frankly, Mehdi isn't wrong here. Using a religious text as a source for historical information to excuse the genocide in Gaza is antithetical to what Maher says he stands for and makes a hypocrite of him.

[–] School_Lunch 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes and he only cited the Bible to show that jews lived there thousands of years ago. He wasn't citing the Bible to make any kind of religious claim, so this guy's comment is completely missing the point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You shouldn't cite the Bible as a historical document. The Bible also says that the Jews were slaves in Egypt, but archaeologists say that isn't true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

More like "they weren't all enslaved in Egypt"

[–] School_Lunch 1 points 1 month ago

The point he was trying to make was that they did live there a long time ago. That fact is collaborated by other sources. He probably should have cited those other sources, but the Bible is just the best known one.