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Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Technically speaking he wasn't elected to the office the first time. Electoral college decided that, the vote had nothing to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You're saying the electoral college's electors didn't elect him?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Sure they did. But the electoral college is usually expected to vote in line with the popular vote, which they didn't. Faithless electors got Trump into office, not the actual electorate that they are allegedly supposed to represent.

So, no, the American people did not in fact vote Donald Trump to be president. The electoral college did, by outright ignoring the voting results and deciding they knew better than the constituents.

[–] Gumbyyy 2 points 1 month ago

But the electoral college is usually expected to vote in line with the popular vote

Electors in the electoral college are generally (with a few exceptions where EC votes are allocated proportionally) expected to vote in line with the popular vote of their respective states. Not with the overall national popular vote.

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