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Three individuals targeted National Gallery paintings an hour after Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland were jailed for similar attack in 2022

Climate activists have thrown tomato soup over two Sunflowers paintings by Vincent van Gogh, just an hour after two others were jailed for a similar protest action in 2022.

Three supporters of Just Stop Oil walked into the National Gallery in London, where an exhibition of Van Gogh’s collected works is on display, at 2.30pm on Friday afternoon, and threw Heinz soup over Sunflowers 1889 and Sunflowers 1888.

The latter was the same work targeted by Phoebe Plummer and Anna Holland in 2022. That pair are now among 25 supporters of Just Stop Oil in jail for climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 day ago (26 children)

While I think this was a stupid way to go about risking jail time for a noble cause, I would like to remind everybody here of what everybody in the 60s thought about MLK and his peaceful protests:

There never has nor will there ever be such a thing as "the right way to protest." The right way to protest means out of sight where it can be conveniently ignored.

[–] scarabic 0 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

What you’re really saying is that no effective protest will ever be welcomed as acceptable.

But the way you say it, that there will never be a right way, begs another question: just because legitimate protests will be called wrong, does that mean that all protests are right?

I don’t think so. This is a random act of destruction. I personally find it disgusting to compare this to MLK’s mass demonstrations.

[–] sensiblepuffin 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (5 children)

My argument is not "if a protest is uncomfortable, then it is effective".

It is "how can you in the same comment say 'this is a stupid way to go about risking jail for a noble cause' and 'there never has nor will there ever be such a thing as "the right way to protest"'?".

[–] scarabic 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Well. If you’re going to bring out that argument regardless of how stupid, destructive, and ineffective the protest is, then I’m afraid your argument turns into that first one.

I’m going to go shit down the throat of a golden retriever in front of the White House to protest oil. Are you going to block and tackle for me, reminding my critics that effective protests are always uncomfortable? I’m just probing to see if you will just automatically say that or if you are evaluating the situation before saying it.

[–] sensiblepuffin 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not even going to wait for you to come up with a new angle to come at me with.

I award you the Useful Idiot Ribbon.

[–] scarabic 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Disingenuous, useful idiot… any other terms you heard online and don’t understand how to use properly? Words have meanings. They are not mere talismans to wave at someone.

[–] sensiblepuffin 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, I wasn't aware that animal abuse is on the same level of inanity as throwing soup at a painting. You're being insanely disingenuous.

[–] scarabic 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh did I make you uncomfortable? I must be stopping oil.

Don’t hold you opinion so tightly that you start to believe anyone who disagrees with you must be being disingenuous. That’s a little free life advice. Animal abuse and vandalism are both crimes, as is destroying cultural artifacts. So do you want to explain to me in what way they are NOT on the same level?

If I run a red light wearing a “no oil” t shirt, is that a protest?

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