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Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance has dug in on his claim Haitians in an Ohio community are abducting and eating pets, even as the state’s GOP governor and other officials insist there is no evidence of such behavior.

But the salacious claim was easily debunked.

“The Vance campaign provided the Wall Street Journal with a police report to prove their claims about cat-eating Haitians in Springfield. The WSJ spoke to the woman who filed it, who said she later found her cat alive and well in her basement. She also apologized to her Haitian neighbors.” Justin Baragona posted to X with a link to a story in The Wall Street Journal.


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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 142 points 2 months ago (22 children)

And here we are, over a week after the debate. They're still harping on Haitian immigrants in 1 town, while Harris is blazing up the campaign trail, yet polls are still concerningly close.

This is how scary this election is becoming

[–] WoahWoah 43 points 2 months ago (17 children)

As I recall, in terms of the electoral college, neither Biden nor Harris have, at any point, been projected to beat Trump. It's not "becoming" scary, it's been scary for quite some time.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

There's no one single model doing projections.

Five Thirty Eight's, which is one prominent one, has favored Harris somewhat for a while.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

Harris wins 64 times out of 100

in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.

Trump wins 36 times out of 100.

There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.

Nate Silver -- who started Five Thirty Eight and is now off doing his own thing and runs a fork of the model that Five Thirty Eight used to run -- had them, last I looked, had Harris and Trump at about about even chances.

Both Silver's model and Five Thirty Eight's model agreed that the debate improved Harris's chances.

[–] SeriousMite 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Important to note that Nate Silver works for Peter Theil, who has donated heavily to Trump pacs, and is responsible for giving us JD Vance.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on Silver working for Thiel?

[–] leadore 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting.

Tl;Dr: Nate Silver is an "advisor" to Polymarket, a gambling platform based on real world events. Peter Thiel is an investor for Polymarket.

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel," but it's pretty sad to see Nate Silver working for a likely illegal crypto scam.

[–] nomous -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel."

Nate Silver is a paid advisor to a company that Peter Thiel runs, it's not a stretch at all, wake up.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Wikipedia link above mentions nothing about that. Do you have a different source?

[–] nomous 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, just pointing out a possible conflict of interest.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So "Peter Thiel runs Polymarket" is a fact that you made up?

[–] nomous 0 points 2 months ago

Nah you're right it's just a billionaire funding a company that just coincidentally hired Nate. Nothing to see here, billionaires can be trusted.

[–] blazeknave 2 points 2 months ago

I do that for a lot of Thiel types. Believe me, I don't work for them, and I'm vocal about my opposite values from them

[–] blazeknave 3 points 2 months ago

You should go through crunchbase. Anyone in tech has worked at a place with evil investors. They just care whether you hit your numbers after finding product market fit. I'm a conspiracy theorist. This is not it.

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