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[–] [email protected] 143 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (25 children)

I'm actually pretty dang hopeful right now. The right has spent so much time and effort focused around Joe being old and tired, and now that is all dead in the water.

Now we have a new candidate starting from zero with many people, vs trump which is obviously very well known. In short I'm trying to say we have the element of surprise, the benefit of the unknown. They have to convince moderates that this new candidate is still somehow worse than trump, and these aren't the hard right people, these are the undecided (somehow) and centered voters.

Far right voters will always back trump, but the indecisive voters and moderate Republicans who don't like trump but fell for the years of propaganda against Biden have been wanting anyone who is better than Biden but not trump. Same with more centered Democrats, not that they wanted to vote for trump but Biden was not a great candidate for them either.

The rights whole plan was "Joe is so much worse than trump!" and they had 16 years of content to pull on. They can't do that again with a new candidate. People say they handed the election to Republicans. I think it's the opposite. I think Republicans demanding Joe drop out when anti Joe was their only message may have just accidentally handed the election to Democrats.

If the Dems come out strong on this I think it could shake up the whole election. I see people online saying doom and gloom, I strongly disagree, I think this is a huge rallying cry.

[–] DevCat 89 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Joe being old and tired, and now that is all dead in the water.

Nope. Now it's trump who's old and tired. Kamala needs to go after trump and his crime family like she would other criminals and prosecute them in the press. She is a former prosecutor, after all.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was very against Biden dropping out, but i think this is a pretty good point. I think it is still very risky for her to run due to race and sex discrimination, but it might not be a predetermined loss at least.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

I think that's the invigorating thing as a Democrat. I was feeling beat down and tired, we knew what the outcome was more or less, a razer thin margin on either side. This completely changes that equation, and it means both sides will have to really amp up their game. Democrats just proved they're willing to throw the hail Mary and that makes me really excited!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly yes, not that the hard right will see that, but yes she has the huge opportunity to say something like "it's time we put power in the hands of people who will see the effects of it" so to speak. If she used rhetoric similar to that it could be impactful for getting young people to actually vote like they did for Obama

[–] DevCat 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden has an opportunity to make speech saying something like, "I've decided I am too old for the job, as anybody over 70 should be. It is time for the oldest generation to step aside for their children and grandchildren. It is they who know what the world needs, because they are the ones who will live in that world. The younger generations should no longer elect anyone who is out of touch with their needs."

[–] halcyoncmdr 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's what he should do, now let's get back to reality, that's never going to happen. That would require the geriatric fucks who put us into this godforsaken mess in the first place to admit that they just might have been, wrong and to give up their power to someone new. They'd rather die and leave the country in turmoil than do what's right. And it's across all three branches of government, it's not anything exclusive to the Congress critters. Just look at how we got our current Republican controlled SCOTUS. These fuckers aren't going to leave on their own, they need to be forced out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That would require the geriatric fucks who put us into this godforsaken mess in the first place to admit that they just might have been, wrong and to give up their power to someone new.

That literally just happened?

[–] halcyoncmdr 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Show me where there is anything even close to an admission of being wrong? Where is he saying that running again was a mistake and that the party needs to be looking to younger members to take them into the future?

Biden isn't apologizing for the waste of campaigning up to this point. He got COVID again and combined with the massive push due to the clearly pertinent age-related health questions, there's just no option to keep going. He's only dropping his bid because it's being forced.

He's not leaving because he wants to, or because he's had any sort of realization.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Regime is gonna regime this

There is NO practical way to affect any of this. We can chose trump or Harris and neither of then is going to be anything of sorts.

Can't even get annual or maternity leave. Shit ain't even on the agenda lol

[–] Zachariah 10 points 4 months ago

… Now it's trump who's old and tired …

So it’s his turn to drop out of the race?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's certainly what US media should be focusing on, but probably won't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, all their shooting against Biden will now come back to haunt them. It's not like Trump isn't a senile old man. He's just senile in different ways.

[–] Anticorp 2 points 4 months ago

More malicious, incompetent, and openly hostile ways. He's the elderly home resident who none of the nurses want to help because of what an awful person he is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm hoping she sees a surge of support when she starts bitch slapping Trump around for being a treasonous felon

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