this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2024
343 points (97.2% liked)

Videos

14114 readers
272 users here now

For sharing interesting videos from around the Web!

Rules

  1. Videos only
  2. Follow the global Mastodon.World rules and the Lemmy.World TOS while posting and commenting.
  3. Link directly to the video source and not for example an embedded video in an article.
  4. Don't be a jerk
  5. No advertising
  6. Avoid clickbait titles. (Tip: Use dearrow)

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (12 children)

A somewhat less pessimistic take: the system is set up to be self-stable.

And it was also designed so that States would have most of the power, not the Federal government.

At various points in history the common people did get benefits. New Deal. Universal suffrage. Civil rights. Abolition.

But it always requires a critical mass of the population to support change.

[–] Diplomjodler3 37 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Like in the 2016 election? Or in 2000? The system is set up to prevent the will of the people from being enacted and it takes a massive crisis for everyone to be pissed off enough to do something. Add to that the control of nearly all media by the oligarchy and you get to where we are today.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Both elections exactly prove my point.

The federal system is set up to favor State power, which is why the US presidential election isn't decided by popular vote. By design, Wyoming and California are considered equals in many respects.

It's a bad system, but it's very much entrenched in the constitution.

And it also requires critical mass. It's basically impossible to enact meaningful change with a 50-55% majority. You need 60% or more to get big changes. And a majority of states.

[–] themeatbridge 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's the NPVIC which would cut the electoral college out of the process entirely.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Indeed - and I really hope it passes.

I thought about mentioning it in my previous comment. But basically, it's another example that States hold most of the power. The States actually have the power to effectively replace the current system with a national popular vote if they choose.

Other examples are the IRV in Alaska and the district system in Maine and Nebraska.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)