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Hi, everyone.

I've created a new Lemmy instance particularly for the discussion of religion and topics relevant to religion.

Other Lemmy instances can sometimes feel a bit hostile to religion, and I'm hoping to create a place that feels a bit more supportive.

If you're interested, feel free to go create a new community there. I've also gone ahead and created communities for Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, and if you're interested in modding one of those, let me know.

https://faithlemmy.online

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[–] givesomefucks 8 points 3 months ago (15 children)

Because the vast majority of religions oppress people...

And lots of religious people don't want to fix that, they want to skip to where everyone treats religious people better and ignore how religions treat people.

If you follow an Abrhamic religion and claim to have to be against abortion and LGBTQ because your religion tells you to....

All the Abrhamic religions also say to do horrible shit like kill non-believers. So if they're saying they have to follow the rules and it's not their choice, we can look at the other things their religions tell them to do, and assume the reason they're quite about those parts, is they don't have the numbers to accomplish those parts.

Yet.

If they want people to be nicer, their primary focus needs to be on fixing their own house first.

It's like a narcissist demanding everyone forgive them, but they don't actually apoligize and definitely don't change the behavior that upset people.

[–] zloubida -1 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I'm a Christian and believe that abortion should be legal and free and that homosexuality isn't a sin. My church has similar positions. Why should I ask people to excuse me for things others do?

[–] givesomefucks 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

So...

You're a Christian that doesn't follow the Bible?

Then you're just picking and choosing what parts you believe and what parts you don't.

Who knows what crazy shit does your cult believes? What opinions do you hold based on faith and an old person telling you to hold?

It's fucking dangerous for everyone else.

Why should people just take your word that you only follow the "good parts" and why should they believe what you think is good is actually moral?

If you're picking and choosing what parts to follow, you can't hide behind your religion as a shield.

[–] AnalogyAddict -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Religious people do whatever the Bible tells them to do: "You're a mindless cultist!"

Religious people pick and choose what they believe: "You're a hypocrite!"

Meanwhile, non-religious people do the same things because both of those things are just simple human behavior, but they don't have self- awareness about it.

[–] givesomefucks 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know you're trying to say those first two lines ironically...

But yeah, that's right.

Maybe some day you'll see that, but logic won't help until you're ready.

[–] AnalogyAddict -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't accurately criticize something you don't understand. The more you post, the more ignorant you seem. But by all means, wallow in it. I'm not going to join you.

[–] zloubida 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people are proud of their ignorance, that's true of some religious people and some non-religious people.

[–] AnalogyAddict 0 points 3 months ago

Definitely. That's part of human nature, too.

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