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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

stop oil are industry plants they were founded by the daughter of an oil exec they're designed to make the real people protesting look crazy by lumping them in

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A claim like that requires some sources

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That Just Stop Oil is funded by the daughter of an oil exec is very easy to prove and not at all controversial.

Why she funds it is another matter entirely. If she's sincere, she wouldn't be the first child of a conservative billionaire to take a more progressive stance. On the other hand, if it is a false flag operation, it wouldn't be the first time that's been done either.

Here is her sharing her own perspective.

To take an Occam's razor approach, that she's sincere requires assuming...that she's being sincere. That she's operating a false flag requires assuming that she's lying to the press by claiming to care about the environment, and that she has successfully fooled not just the press but also the people she's giving the money to (or an even bigger assumption: that it's a massive conspiracy and everyone involved in JSO is in on it, but nobody has leaked) of her sincerity, and that she believes the best thing she can do to prevent action on climate change is to fund organisations aiming to promote action on climate change.

It's certainly not impossible, but yeah. Occam's razor suggests to me that unless we get more evidence to the contrary, we should put more stock in the idea that she's sincere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Great reply, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Stop_Oil

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/10/just-stop-oil-behind-the-scenes-with-the-activists

I can't find any evidence that they were founded by her but she did help found the climate action fund which has donated a large amount of money to them as well as Extinction Rebellion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Getty

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_Emergency_Fund

I think she's probably genuine but that's also besides the point. Whether she has alternative motives or not all that really matters is whether the activism is helping or hurting