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"Few creatures of the night have captured our imagination like vampires.
What explains our enduring fascination with vampires? Is it the overtones of sexual lust, power, control? Or is it a fascination with the immortality of the undead?"

Feel free to post any vampire-related content here. I'll be posting various vampire media I enjoy just as a way of kickstarting this community but don't let that stop you from posting something else. I just wanted a place to discuss vampire movies, books, games, etc.
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I thought this was a really fun movie and a great premise. The entire movie is taken from one chapter of Bram Stoker's novel. And this was the perfect chapter to adapt because it didn't have much detail and none of the other characters from the book appear in it (and none of the characters in the chapter appear elsewhere in the book). In the chapter, Dracula's coffin travels by boat to London. When it arrives, everyone on the boat is dead. That's the entire chapter. So it gave the filmmakers a lot of room to work with.

I remember seeing an interview with the director where he compared it to the movie Alien, which had a crew trapped aboard a spaceship being slowly hunted by the alien. He wanted to make a similar movie but with the crew trapped aboard a ship being slowly hunted by Dracula. And I think it worked beautifully.

I have one nit-pick about the movie and it's in the final scene. I'm going to try using spoiler tags, although I don't think it really "spoils" the movie. It is the final scene though so I'll play it safe.

spoilerAt the end of the movie, there's one survivor. Given that this is a movie and the audience would want to see somebody survive, I don't think it's a bad choice. But I would've preferred if this one survivor either went crazy and was locked into an asylum or went to live as a hermit in the forest. That is, he should've exited the story. This would've allowed for the rest of the Dracula novel to take place uninterrupted.

Instead, the movie ends with this final survivor in a pub in London tracking down Dracula and vowing revenge. And that... kinda ignores the fact that this is only a single chapter in the Dracula novel. Nothing else in the movie explicitly disregards the source material. Yet having the sole survivor alive, in London, and actively tracking Dracula when his character doesn't show up again in the rest of the novel means they're either breaking away from the novel's story or this character was so inept that his attempt for vengeance had literally no effect on the characters who actually defeated Dracula in the novel. It's a weird choice and I think it ends the movie on a bad note.

Anyway, here's a trailer. I think you should definitely watch it if you get a chance.

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List of movies (from the article)

  • "Svengali,” Archie Mayo, 1931
  • "Beauty and the Beast,” Jean Cocteau, 1946
  • “Great Expectations,” David Lean, 1946
  • “The Queen of Spades,” Thorold Dickinson, 1949
  • “Andriesh,” Yakov Bazelyan, Sergei Parajanov, 1954
  • "The Innocents,” Jack Clayton, 1961
  • "The Eve of Ivan Kupalo,” Yuri Ilyenko, 1968
  • "The She-Butterfly / Leptirica,” Đordje Kadijević, 1973
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Please watch it this week if you can!

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First of all, when I decided I wanted to kickstart this community by running through a bunch of classic vampire movies I didn't realize they'd all be Dracula movies. That wasn't my intent. This is supposed to be a community for general vampire content, not the All-Dracula-All-The-Time community.

Anyway, you can argue about Keanu Reeves' accent or Winona Ryder's acting but I think this is the best film adaptation of Bram Stoker's novel. It captures a lot of the novel while also adding some backstory to Dracula's character, which fits really well into the narrative in my opinion. 1922's Nosferatu is a creepy silent film, 1931's Dracula is iconic, but I think this movie has the most cohesive story. Here's a trailer.

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Making a point that I'll also allow memes on this community.

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In 1922, the German director F. W. Murnau wanted to make a Dracula adaptation. But he didn't (couldn't?) get the rights to the novel. So he changed the title "Dracula" to "Nosferatu", renamed "Count Dracula" to "Count Orlok" and... that was about it. The movie was so obviously a beat-for-beat remake of the plot to Dracula that Bram Stoker's widow successfully sued the studio and won. The court ruled to have every copy of the movie destroyed. Fortunately, a couple copies survived and it is now known as one of the best examples of a horror movie from the silent film era.

Since this movie is so old, it's also in the public domain. This means you can watch it anywhere. Since no one has to pay any licensing fees, it's on a bunch of streaming services (and youtube). Be warned though, I recommend watching the original in black and white. Don't bother watching any colorized versions of this movie, it's better to keep the movie in a creepy black and white.

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The 1931 Dracula movie is the first Dracula adaptation with sound. It stars Bela Lugosi as Dracula and is the basis for a lot of the Dracula stereotypes that have persisted for decades. The movie still holds up today and it's fun watching the original that has been parodied and referenced in countless other places.

And yes, I'm trying to make posts about all the classic vampire movies first before we get into the weird and obscure vampire movies. I'm just trying to get things started.

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The actor who played Count Orlok in the 1922 silent film Nosferatu was really creepy and weird looking. So this movie decided to play with the idea of: what if the actor himself was actually a vampire, hired to give a believable performance of a vampire in a movie?

The movie stars Wilem Dafoe as Max Schreck and John Malkovich as the movie's director, F. W. Murnau. Here's a trailer. I can never find it streaming on any of the subscription services, but you can usually pay money to rent it on services like Prime Video if you want. It's a fun movie.

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I'm a bit embarrassed to admit this, but I've never seen any of the Dracula movies from Hammer Films. I only recently learned they existed and I had no idea that Christopher Lee (Saruman and Count Dooku??) was originally famous for playing Dracula in multiple movies. And Peter Cushing (Grand Moff Tarkin??) was famous for playing Van Helsing in multiple of these movies alongside Christopher Lee.

So I'd like to remedy this mistake by watching whichever Christopher Lee Hammer Films are... I won't say "good", but at least the best of what's available? I have a general impression of what Hammer Films are like after watching Captain Kronos and Vampire Circus so I think I have my expectations set appropriately, but maybe the Dracula movies are legitimately good? I'm looking for some suggestions. I'd hate to randomly pick one of these movies only to discover it's the worst one.

If anyone needs a reminder, I believe these are all of the Christopher Lee/Peter Cushing Hammer movies:

  • Horror of Dracula
  • Brides of Dracula
  • Dracula: Prince of Darkness
  • Dracula has Risen from the Grave
  • Taste the Blood of Dracula
  • Scars of Dracula
  • Dracula A.D. 1972
  • The Satanic Rites of Dracula
  • Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires

So I guess... rank these movies for me? Or at least tell me which one(s) to avoid?

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When I thought about creating a vampire community on Lemmy, I started thinking about which books/movies I would start with to get the community started. Obviously, I need to get Bram Stoker's Dracula novel out of the way first since it's just expected/assumed. Bram Stoker didn't invent vampires or the vampire fiction genre, but this novel definitely codified many of the rules for vampires that are still used in vampire fiction today.

It was released in 1897, and this means it's old enough to be in the public domain. If you've never read it, you can read the entire thing for free in whatever format you want thanks to Project Gutenberg (a website for public domain ebooks). Also, if you like audiobooks, LibriVox is a website where volunteers read public domain books to create free audiobooks. Since Dracula is such a popular novel, there are multiple versions available (even some with a full cast). There's really no excuse to not have read this book if you're a fan of vampires.

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James Wan is a horror director and co-creator of the Saw, Insidious, and Conjuring franchises. He was also executive producer on the Salem's Lot remake for (HBO) Max. In an attempt to hype up the release for Salem's Lot, he posted this watchlist of vampire movies. And honestly... it's really good. There are a lot of obvious classics but also some great obscure choices as well.

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